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Janis Peace commenting: When I was in high school a person my age brought a gun to school. I guess the boys knew it but I never heard a word about it until . . . while sitting in science class at tables rather than desks, on a day when we had a substitute teacher, suddenly a loud noise went off. The teacher said "okay, who has the firecracker" and continued to repeat it a couple of times and then this student stands up and says, "may I go to the nurses office" and she said yes so he walked out of the door to our class to the nurses office and she continued to try to find the firecracker. Someone in the class told the teacher he had shot himself and asked to go to the nurses office. He had the gun in his pocket and it went off shooting himself in the leg from what I understand. I will never forget this day. If the gun had been pointed just a little bit different, it could have killed a student. That was the last day the boy was at our high school. From what I understand, he was sent to Beaumont, a school for problem children. I don't know where he is today or if his life changed. The teacher did run after him once she realized what was going on. I guess I am writing this to say, maybe it's not a good idea to carry a gun in your pocket and it could be down right deadly. If you have a gun permit maybe you should have to carry it a certain way. This could endanger the public even if it is a mistake when it goes off. It's a lot more to just having a gun. You must know how to have it safely.
"If you have a gun permit maybe you should have to carry it a certain way. " The "certain way" people with CHPs carry is typically concealed, though open-carry is legal for all those that are allowed to possess a firearm. Due to the seasons, weather, type of clothing, male, female, the firearm itself, etc., there are many safe ways to carry, and many different preferred ways of carrying. There are also holsters for handguns one carries in one's pocket. If it is properly concealed, you have no way of knowing what method of carrying is employed, making any type of "regulations" on the "proper" way to carry unenforceable.
As far as what happened in this story, I would suspect this man carried that way for a long time, and nothing happened previously. Complacency is a problem when handling anything that has the potential to harm someone. That is the reason for many car crashes, people become complacent and do not pay as close attention to driving as they should. The CDC shows many ways people die "accidentally", 169,936 in 2017. Of those, 498 were by firearm - the lowest cause of accidental death listed; the highest being 64,795 by poisoning; then 40,231 by cars; and 36,338 from falling. Should we require permits for drugs, cars, and stairs and ladders, and only allow a "certain way" of using these things. They clearly are much more lethal, as are overdoses, 73,990; and alcohol, 35,823.
Yes, I understand your concern, and people should be more careful, as the CDC shows, negligence can be fatal. Accidents are the third highest cause of death, second only to heart disease, 647,457; and cancer, 599,108.
As I stated in a prior post, this man's negligence serves as a reminder to us all to be more careful and to always follow the firearm safety rules.
The gun owner, Shook, is in a lot of trouble. I suspect the repercussions will greatly exceed what most might think. He had better hire an expensive lawyer.
JUST the sort of person you want handling a lethal weapon. Someone who can’t even pull up his pants without discharging his gun. Not to mention the negative impact to commerce Walmart suffered jiving to evacuate the store.
And why are guns allowed to be manufactured without safety features to prevent this sort of occurrence??? The new Dem legislature should definitely look into legislation to prevent this sort of lethally dangerous incident in the future. The gun manufacturer should definitely be sued for marketing such a dangerous object without common sense controls.
A similar thing happened to a fellow over in Lynchburg a few years. Unfortunately, he was putting his wallet back in his rear pants pocket and it went off shooting him in the buttocks.
He was charged and convicted of reckless handling of a firearm and the Judge took his gun away from him. Hopefully a similar outcome will occur in Chesterfield. Stupid is as stupid does.
Memo don’t go to his house for a dinner ..... you might get shot if he goes to the bathroom.
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So many stolen guns. Owners should be responsible for not keeping their weapons securely locked away so that they cannot be stolen and then used to kill.
This article had nothing to do with stolen guns!
So if this guy doesn't have good enough sense to be able to toilet without nearly shooting himself, maybe he also doesn't have enough sense to keep that gun locked up so nobody can steal it. Sorry you don't like my comment. My feelings are hurt.
I didn't mean to hurt your feelings but the article was about the incident of his careless behavior. Also, we don't know how he stores his gun at home but I know I keep my concealed weapon in a safe until I carry it and then return it and only I have the combination!
gween ….. what we need is a new gun law that requires an attendant to be stationed in men's, women';s, and trans's terlets) to assist those puling up pants so guns do not fall out? Surprised you or Flaky Drakie didn't think of that …. yet. Hallelujah, and period.
No Tracie: What we need is a law that forbids guns to be carried into public places by anybody but authorized law enforcement. Vous échouez lamentablement en essayant d'être drôle.
Gwenn, you failed miserably in your comment. Your French needs work, the word you were looking for was "Échoué", not "échouez". If you are going to use a foreign language, use the proper spelling and grammar. You clearly aren't as worldly and wise as you believe yourself to be.
"What we need is a law that forbids guns to be carried into public places by anybody (sic) but authorized law enforcement." Yes, because we know LEOs never have negligent discharges (sarcasm), and they have never shot innocent people before, either (more sarcasm, because I know based on your post, you probably would understand, unless I explained that). Unlike private citizens, they suffer no personal liability from their negligent discharges and usually not even when they kill innocent people. They also typically qualify only once per year, and don't practice in between.
I wonder how you believe your forbidding carrying by anyone, but LE, will affect those already prohibited from carrying, but still do, and use them illegally in the commission of their crimes. Do you really believe more laws on firearms will prevent violent crime? Studies show there is no correlation between legal firearm ownership and violent crime. Although the "gun control" Utopia of Maryland is a good example of why we do not want more "gun control" in Virginia. Their violent crime rate is double that of Virginia, a state with some of the most liberal firearm laws.
Maybe we should only allow LE to drive vehicles, since car crashes kill about 40,000 annually, and accidental death by firearms is about 500 annually.
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Thank God, he wasn't packing an AK47 in his pants, or there would have been bullets flying everywhere!
Poor guy was about the sit down on the commode and the his protection fell out his pants. ...... one needs to have protection at Walmarts based on a history of past violence.
The man was pulling up his pants. Learn to read.
So much fI a “defensive weapon”. This proves it’s safer to be without a gun than to have one!
He was 66 which probably had a lot to do with it plus the type of gun. He should be fined!
In your case replace “gun” with “brain”
Stolen guns in Chesterfield Co. from Nov. 14-19, 2019:
Colonial Ridge (Mangowood Drive) – Firearms were stolen from a residence in the 2600 block sometime before 5 p.m. on Nov. 17.
Hunters Landing (Snare Court) – Firearms were stolen from a vehicle at a residence in the 10700 block sometime before 7:30 p.m. on Nov. 18.
Ivey Mill Road – A firearm was stolen from a vehicle at a residence in the 11800 block sometime before 8 p.m. on Nov. 14.
SO many useless, unused “defensive” guns feeding the thug to killer pipeline. Fewer guns = fewer gun deaths
If he's so afraid to go into a department store without a weapon, maybe he should stay home.
A lot of people's lives who have been saved by a person carrying a concealed weapon and using it on a shooter would not agree with you!
And William, just when has this ever been done? I'll bet rarely.
JUST the sort of person you want handling a lethal weapon. Someone who can’t even pull up his pants without discharging his gun. Not to mention the negative impact to commerce Walmart suffered jiving to evacuate the store.
And why are guns allowed to be manufactured without safety features to prevent this sort of occurrence??? The new Dem legislature should definitely look into legislation to prevent this sort of lethally dangerous incident in the future. The gun manufacturer should definitely be sued for marketing such a dangerous object without common sense controls.
Drake, must you display your ignorance of firearms? It's bad enough that you push for laws that will have no effect on criminals and crazies, but now you wallow in your self-imposed ignorance of the subject.
Dennis, must you display your ignorance of everything? Your type of ignorance is what cost republicans the GA in VA.
“Gun control really works. Science has shown time and again that it can prevent mass shootings and save lives.”
VA voters caught on to the NRA lies and elected votes and laws backed by science over “thought and prayers” backed by greed.
What's to know about firearms? You pull the trigger, the gun kills.
Gwen, quit while you are so behind. It's apparent you know little about firearms!
William: I have no need to know all there is to know about firearms. I'm not afraid of my own shadow like you gun toting Mavericks. If you're that scared, maybe you should just stay locked indoors. So let me get this straight ..... you're afraid of somebody who has a gun, right?
The homicidal Democrats won't give the law abiding Republicans time to disengage the safety device on their gun. You're wrong again as usual.
The law abiding democrats will soon impose common sense gun controls on everybody. No doubt we’ll see fewer “defensive weapons” putting bathroom users at risk. You’re wrong again... as always.
Drake, "common-sense gun control", such as in California, Maryland and New York with violent crime rates of over double that of Virginia that has some of the most liberal firearm laws? Which of the "gun control" laws do these states need that they do not already have that would reduce their violent crime rate to be less than that of Virginia? Which of those "gun control" laws would have prevented this incident, which was not a violent crime and caused no injuries?
I do agree, though, that all handguns need to be holstered when carried on or about one's person. The type of firearm that the man had was obviously a "Derringer" style, very small and typically has only one or two barrels. The issue in this case is two-fold, the man carried it carelessly, and as the article stated, it was an older model that did not have a firing pin block or other internal mechanism to make it "drop-safe" as do all modern handguns.
However, like all mechanical devices, they can and do fail. For that reason, one can never rely on a safety to "work" to keep one safe; hence the reason for firearm safety rules that do keep us safe. Failure to follow basic firearm safety can result in a negligent discharge with the potential for harm. Thankfully in this incident, no one was harmed. It does serve as a good lesson and reminder to all of us about adhering to firearm safety rules.
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